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Julia’s guest is Matt Ridley, the science and climate change writer, who joins her to discuss the Extinction Rebellion protests over climate change and what the proposed targets to cut carbon emissions will actually mean for the lives of ordinary people.

A Tory peer, Matt Ridley has been writing about science for 30 years, for the Spectator, the Economist, The Times and the Daily Telegraph.

He is also the author of several best selling books on science, selling more than a million copies, including The Rational Optimist – How Prosperity Evolves.

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